To me, the question is whether there will BE a cyclical market bottom this time.A case can be made for stagnation,with a deflationary bias.lasting many years,along the lines of Japan's experience.The enormous interference in the working of the marketplace by Washington ,to me, raises the odds on such a dismal outcome.Don't think I'll be betting my money on a typical cyclical market recovery for years.What do you think?? In any case, isn't it nice to have been right in the end??!!CHEERS BER